Discovery has been attached to the external tank and technicians are in the process of connecting umbilical lines. Now in the Vehicle Assembly Building, the orbiter is expected to be ready for roll out to the launch pad on Sept. 30 for an Oct. 23 launch.
On a construction mission the International Space Station, Discovery's crew will deliver the Harmony module, expanding the space station's habitable space, and perform five spacewalks.
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How much foam did they crunch this time?
None.
To my former brothers and sisters:
I crossed the line to feed my family. I know that you hate me for it, but they come first. I've had enough of the lies our negotiating committee is spewing.
I know you will either accuse me of being USA HR or simply not read any further, but PLEASE do - I still care about most of you because I know you are caught up in this. You are hard workers and the company does need you back. They are getting along ok without you, but it will be much better when you come back if we can leave the few bad eggs out there.
I really thought they would be behind, but I found that most of the maintenance is done. A few things have been put off with NASA buy-in, but most PM's are done (actually done - not pencil whipped) in the first week of the month. Some of the shops almost don't have enough work left for the few replacements they have.
The shops have never been cleaner, either. You will probably not recognize the place when you do come back. I can't believe how much of a pig stye we had let the place become!
Remember why we started out here and remember that we are all one family. NASA and USA have both welcomed me back like the prodigal son and made me feel really good for contributing to the program.
I'll miss you if you don't choose to come back, but I hope you do soon.
No hard feelings on my side (except for the years of union dues I wasted!)
It is now only pride that keeps my son-in-law from returning to work. He cannot stand the people who wanted this strike from the very beginning. Yet he wants to save face by not going back to work. I respect him less each day. My daughter wants him to work also. I hope he reads this and wakes up.
First off, it's not your chair, it's the companies. Second, you were never in it anyway, you were always out smoking. Third, you have to actually "do something" to work somewhere, which I hear you did not do. So, enjoy your smoke break, you have a long time now!
No one likes being told they were wrong about anything. No one likes being told their girlfriend cheated on them. No one likes being told their hygiene is subpar. No one likes being told they drink and gamble too much. No on likes learning they have nobody elses respect. Nobody likes hearing their wife say all the other men were at least half endowed. Nobody likes finding out they are the tail on an outdoor dogs butt. Nobody likes hearing they are uneducated, or foolish. No one likes hearing they are not in the same league, talent wise and knowledge wise,as the one they're trying to play in. No one likes to hear their pride has led them to abandon what IS BEST for their family. Stay strong now for Fred. It's almost over remember?
I don't smoke. That is my chair. i brought it. I wasn't in it because I was working. You are a scab. Quit fartin in my chair. Every man likes to hear that the other men were half as endowed. You are temporary. Fred rules.
After seeing what this union has put its members through and hearing about the threats the leadership uses on them to keep them out on strike, I will never buy another union made product for the rest om my life.
It is now only pride that keeps my son-in-law from returning to work. He cannot stand the people who wanted this strike from the very beginning. Yet he wants to save face by not going back to work. I respect him less each day. My daughter wants him to work also. I hope he reads this and wakes up.
This is why people hate their mother-in-laws. They can't mind their own business. Just watch your soaps and keep your nose out of other peoples stuff. He didn't marry you. He just inherited you. Its called baggage. It doesn't give you the right to interfere in their lives. My wife wants me back at work too but she understands what is going on and supports me. Her mom isn't butting in. If she did then my wife would put her in her place.
7:16 said:
"hearing about the threats the leadership uses on them to keep them out on strike"
Wow, you guys are truly getting desperate aren't you. Look, it's real easy, offer a fair contract and this will all be over. We can go back to doing the dirty work and you can go back under your bosses desk.
7:24, you say your wife understands and supports you. Yeah right! So she understands you were going on strike because your leadership wanted you to strike this company even before negotiations started? They did. one hoped for time on his boat knowing he's still paid even though you're not. She understands what's going on? She then uderstands you just struck yourself out of a job and she's "down with it homey"? She understands that the UAW that just settled their strike up north have an educated bargaining comittee? Go on, look up their degrees. UAW.org/barg/07/fact/fact09
The facts are such that your wife married a moron that walked out on one of the sweetest jobs in Florida. But you, no you got foolish pride. "I'll ride this out hell or high water" you say. I'll work your job I say. Perhaps it'll be me that buys your house when you foreclose.
2 more came back to work today. One at NSLD and one at the VAB area.
Ode To Fred said...
Fred is a loser that lives in the tent.
He spouts off rhetoric his brain is half spent.
He shouts out his cuss words as cars speed right by.
I work at his job with a gleam in my eye.
The temporary strike replacement workers will probably not be hired as regular employees, but will remain temps through the end of the contract. This may give false hope to strikers, but they must understand also that they are still out of a job. Ask your union where talks are now, or when they will resume. Call them every day if you have to, but get an answer. It's your job they sold out! Ask them what they get paid while you are on strike.
After seeing what this union has put its members through and hearing about the threats the leadership uses on them to keep them out on strike, I will never buy another union made product for the rest om my life.
You haven't been buying any up 'til now so no big loss Walmart shopper. Nobody has been threatened. But nice try again. Will the company stop at anything to get people to cross? We aren't going to cross. So just get a contract on the table we can buy and then we will be back.
better get me a sunday paper so's I can read about the new jobs at the space center...
QUOTE>>>Democrats on the House Science and Technology Committee, which is charged with oversight of NASA, has given their full backing to the IAM and the strikers of Local Lodge 2061. This is important news, as the support the IAM has brought together is essential for success. We continue to explore every opportunity including discussions with the Federal Mediation Services and all other interested parties, and we are committed to bring this strike to a reasonable and equitable conclusion for our members.<<<<
Can you believe this drivel...of course politicians back the union...especially democrats who have been historically known to try to suck up to unions to try to get thier vote. Yeah, I am so sure that one of these politicians would be sur eto go on record how much they could care less about the union folk, that would get them a lot of votes.
Guess what, it is good to see that they are on the oversight committee for NASA...and will NEVER do anything to interfere with the trade practices between NASA or ANY of it's subcontractors because THAT alone could be cause for a contractor in federal arbitration court to get a strike and a union tossed out on it's butt.
But tell ole Johnny and company to keep feeding this bogus info to all the folks because it amounts to nothing but air and it won't feed your families, pay the overdue house and auto payments...but it could end you out of a job and in bankruptcy court.....and Johnny will still have a job.
I am not telling you to cross the line....check out all the info for yourselves, ask th negotiating commitee members the HARD questions, and MAKE them give you real answers, not the old traditional...we'll check into that smoke and mirrors....think about it folks....really think about it.
8:08. You're a spineless little cuss aren't you? That is probably why you aren't married. You're kids probably don't even want you to take them to school for fear that someone will see them. Grow some big man. At least play the part of a man.
The temporary strike replacement workers will probably not be hired as regular employees, but will remain temps through the end of the contract.
Whatever. They may stay but they will not be welcomed. They can keep my bonus. I already lost enough wages. Another thousand or two won't be enough to quiet me. A scab is a scab and I reserve the right to say it when I get back.
I love the i:15 Quote nothing is more to the truth you hit the striker right on the head.
Walker has them all brain washed the truth will not matter only drivel by the IAM to keep the strikers out.
Pride what a laugh what pride
because you bought the idea you could get more, that is not pride it is greed.
Strike for my chideren another fairy story you are out because of greed.
A fair contract another laught it is greed not pride wake up boy.
>>>The temporary strike replacement workers will probably not be hired as regular employees, but will remain temps through the end of the contract.
Whatever. They may stay but they will not be welcomed. They can keep my bonus. I already lost enough wages. Another thousand or two won't be enough to quiet me. A scab is a scab and I reserve the right to say it when I get back.<<<
Yeah, now there's the great attitiude, that and a buck will get ya a cup of coffee and a ticket right back OUT the gate. HR has lot's of things like "hostile work enviroment" they can use nowadays. Yep, bring that open attitude back with ya....you'll make it easy for them. Tell the lady and kids how big you were talking trash to the replacements...right up to the point where you got walked back off the job.....yeah, real wealth of intelligence there.
What's the matter. Does it bother you? HR can't even use spell check with half the crap they spew on here. Do you think they actually care about you? You are just a tool for them. They will tell you to get lost when you go complaining to them. You are scabs and nothing else. That IS the attitude I will come back with and nothing will happen to me.
why dont you union slugs just admit you blew it. you kept taking and taking and now youre paying for it. now go away and get a taste of the real world. by that i mean find out just how overpayed and underworked you really were. you saps had it all and threw it away. but "stand strong brothers and sisters" you guys got em right where you want em. not.
12:18 said
"you kept taking and taking and now youre paying for it."
Yes, sometimes taking a stand has a cost attached to it. I wouldn't expect you to understand.
Jealousy will get you nowhere.
What's the record for strikes at KSC? Isn't it 112 days? You folks are going to crush that record. Congradulations.
The company doen't want the union back. Think about it. They know most people are tired of the strike and all they had to do was offer a contract that was slightly better than the previous one. It would have passed. But they offered a package that didn't have a prayer. Nasa is saving close to a million dollars a month, all the milestones are getting met and the USA bosses are going to get huge bonuses. Why would they bring the IAM back? They want to be more efficient for the next program. If you are one of the people that would rather die than cross the picket line you better start looking for a job elsewhere.
Tell the union to make sure they buy a Sunday paper. They are F'd. They, USA, are through negotiating and are hiring 100+ people (through Spheron)to close out the program. Full page add will be in Sunday's paper. Letters of "intent to dismiss" for walking off the job will follow shortly after the add. Can they do that? The answer is yes, and THEY ARE GOING TO! They are busting this union.
The strikers don't even stand out by the road! Theys all huddled in the shelter like mamas boys. God at least stand out and hold a sign. You ain't earning no $150 sitting on your butt. Your not at your job. Have some pride!
UNION WORKERS
PLEASE
STAY ON STRIKE!!
Everything is SO MUCH BETTER without you.
Everyone is SO MUCH HAPPIER without you.
Do the space program a favor!
Take a long walk off a short pier!
Sunday paper. Sports section. Full page ad. Look for it. Word has it once replacement workers are in, strikers will have to wait to come back till there is an opening, that is a replacement retires, quits or is terminated. Sit back and watch the show!
Brothers and Sisters...Check out the Sports section on Sundays FT paper.
It will be funny when NASA drops the lawsuit on Florida Today to get the user info for all these people posting while at work .
Be funny to see most of HR fired for time card fraud .
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How much foam did they crunch this time?"
PR ET-120-TS-0057 - 2 Areas Crushed Foam on LH2 Umbilical
MBO Foam Trim was completed on Friday. PR is complete.
PR ET-120-TS-0058 - Crushed Foam on LH2 Umbilical
MBO Foam Trim was completed on Friday. PR is complete.
PR ET-120-TS-0059 - Gouge in Foam on LH2 Feedline Bracket
PDL Foam Trim was completed on Friday. PR is complete.
Apparently they damaged a bit , again .
They will be called back within seniority by classification as required.
There will be no mass return of strikers who walked off the job.
Depending on the classification some may never return.
This was not a lock out the employees walked off the job on their own accord.
USA is under no contract requirement to return any of the strikers too their former job at KSC.
USA DID NOT BUCKLE TOO THE GREED OF THE IAM.
THE IAM WAS OFFERED AND DECLINED A VERY FAIR CONTRACT.
CONVINCED THEIR GREED WOULD WIN THEY WALKED OFF THE JOB.
THIS ACTION SEVERED ANY CONTRACT REQUIREMENT FOR USA.
BOTHERS AND SISTERS THE END IS HERE, NO LONG WAIT REQUIRED.
BROTHERS AND SISTERS YOU ARE NO LONGER REQUIRED PERIOD.
Fred says BULL FLOPPY!!
You have shown your desparation and weakness here. I for one am laughing at your vain attempts to make me turn my back on my friends and coworkers.
Present a good contract and we will gladly return.
I will come back if you promise to fire my manager, my TOS, and several of the engineers that are more worried about sucking butt than getting some work done.
Just kidding, but I really would like you to think about firing my clueless manager. And not just promote him like you usally do. It would really help the comapny in the long run.
This is a scare tactic and nothing more. These two people posting are probably flight side techs with no future. They are trying to get a foothold on your spot. It won't happen. I posted earlier but the blog police aren't on the union side so they only post what they want.
Sorry Bozos. Sanctioned strike. Can't be replaced. Hang tight all and watch the blog. Don't be a scab now. Don't forget why you walked out. Nothing has changed no matter what these morons try to spread. We can't be busted if we don't allow them to. Crossing will move it in that direction and then you will be as screwed as these goofballs. They want you to cross so they have a fighting chance to take your job.
The IAM today released a letter from Democratic members of Congress that has been delivered to the United Space Alliance CEO. Those congress people signing the letter include Mark Gordon, Chairman of the House Science and Technology Committee, and Mark Udall, Chairman of the House Space and Aeronautics Subcommittee, and members from both committees. The letter strongly urges United Space Alliance to return to the bargaining table to seek a fair resolution to the contract dispute.
It's nice to see that we have representatives in Congress who will stand up and put their names on the dotted line to ensure a resolution to this strike
all the milestones are getting met and the USA bosses are going to get huge bonuses. Why would they bring the IAM back///////////// that is a lie god can see you
Get it straight and understand the facts. Sure 3:39, some Dems probably did sign a letter as you wrote above. Know why? Sundays paper..read it. Your committee knows what up, do you? You ARE and WILL be replaced. 12:59 says "Sorry Bozos. Sanctioned strike" . Whatever, the company is hiring your final replacement. Your negotiating committee was not wise to urge you to strike. Their education level speaks strongly enough. 12:59,keep telling yourself "you can't be replaced" because you're on strike. Let us know how that goes. The final straw was the insult by 2 negotiating members. Be sure and raise that question at your meeting. Ask them what they said. It was a deciding factor and shows again how poorly you were led. There will be no further negotiations. Read the paper Sunday. It is over.
that's not so. He cannot see us. He does NOT read the Florida Today just the Orlando Sentinel.
I don't know how is is going to end but I would like to see if Caesars in Vegas is giving any odds on it so at least I can make a few bucks on the outcome. Does anyone know of any bookies in Brevard that are making odd on this? None of them in Orlando care.
Fla. Today Sports headline, "Louis and Roy are neck and neck as they go into the final weeks of sucking up." "Louis has got a hold on things but Roy is inching up from the rear"!
Brothers and siseters everthing has changed these were the same words by the union at East Coast railroad and Eastern Airlines during their strike.
Watch the events in the coming weeks and you will see were the truth is.
The IAM management is running scared and needs to try too keep all strikers on the street.
They know they have no leverage and that you will be replaced.
That is a fact.
The Democrats in congress they need your vote and more important your money.
they will say anyting for your support a typical Democratic response..
Did you expect any other response like the truth??????????????
Go back and read the "IAM" blogs do you see the fear in their writings?
Read between the lines they are running scared you can almost smell it in the air.
Ask for a real up date not folklore.
Form your own opinion.
Rember "IAM" members with out you the IAM management is nothing they need yor "DUES" you are their pay checks, Retirements and medical benefits.
ASK FOR SOME STRAIGHT ANSWERS AND DEMAND RESULTS.
They fly around the country living like kings with no problems
on your dues.
Labor movememts are not bad it is the type of people that join.
They need too improve the method how thay select members.
Every jack leg should not be granted membership.
This in turn would improve the caliber of members the same methods other organizations select members.
What is the Bonus for the IAM management that keeps their members in line and on the street?????????
A promotion too a higher job in the IAM with good employment Fringe travel and benefits and retirement with no loss of pay during strikes.
YEA GO IAM TEAM.
BROTHERS AND SISTERS ARE YOU GETTING TIRED OF THE STRIKE YET?
STAY STRONG IN A fEW MORE WEEKS WE MAY GET AN OFFER.
REMEMBER YOU "WALKED" OUT, NOT "LOCKED" OUT, YOU CAN AND WILL BE REPLACED.
THIS IS THE MAJOR DIFFERENCE IN LABOR LAW.
where are the updates here????
cool pic...too bad it is over shadowed by bickering guys on strike who have lost more during the time out then what they would have gained... I feel bad for the kids who are going with out because of their stubborn parents. I am a union member out of state. Sometimes you have to put your home family before your brethren. Your brothers and sisters will understand-eventually. They are feeling the hurt down inside too. Life goes on but letting your families suffer for a % or 2 isn't going to help.
I had to cross the line because my dog had fleas. I know that you hate me, so does my mother, father, wife, kids, uncles, aunts, cousins, and strangers that I meet in the stores. I know that there are people suffering from life threatening diseases still on strike but you dont understand that he was SCRATCHING! boohoohoo... I thought that I would be welcomed with open arms by the company but I get treated as if I had leprosy.
No posts here about the big news buzzing KSC today? Metrics have shown in the last weeks that operations are smooth and almost seemless without the union. Transportation is the best it has ever been. Warehouse metrics were improved noticably. USA does not want and will not agree to further talks with the union.
The sad part is many good workers are going to forfeit their job by being on strike. USA is hiring temporary employees to help close out the program. They can legally hire as many temps as they want to regardless of what some union members are being told. The word is...buy Sunday's paper and an add is in the sport section regarding the hiring. No further bargaining is desired by USA. They don't have to as they brought a mediator last time and the unions comments and arrogance doomed them. Saying that this strike "was sanctioned" means absolutely nothing. They are hiring. Read the paper and draw your own conclusions. THINK for yourself. It is over.
There is a letter being signed by top Democrats to urge USA to go back to the table. This letter has some weight behind it. It will get bargaining started agaian. One knowledgable man I respect very much said today all actions undertaken by USA lately are legally allowable. Also said if the add is't a ruse and they do indeed hire folks, we'er in trouble.
The strikers don't even stand out by the road! Theys all huddled in the shelter like mamas boys. God at least stand out and hold a sign. You ain't earning no $150 sitting on your butt. Your not at your job. Have some pride!
Tell the union to make sure they buy a Sunday paper. They are F'd. They, USA, are through negotiating and are hiring 100+ people (through Spheron)to close out the program. Full page add will be in Sunday's paper. Letters of "intent to dismiss" for walking off the job will follow shortly after the add. Can they do that? The answer is yes, and THEY ARE GOING TO! They are busting this union.
Turn out the lights.
Tell the union to make sure they buy a Sunday paper. They are F'd. They, USA, are through negotiating and are hiring 100+ people (through Spheron)to close out the program. Full page add will be in Sunday's paper. Letters of "intent to dismiss" for walking off the job will follow shortly after the add. Can they do that? The answer is yes, and THEY ARE GOING TO! They are busting this union.
Turn out the lights.
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How much foam did they crunch this time?"
PR ET-120-TS-0057 - 2 Areas Crushed Foam on LH2 Umbilical
MBO Foam Trim was completed on Friday. PR is complete.
PR ET-120-TS-0058 - Crushed Foam on LH2 Umbilical
MBO Foam Trim was completed on Friday. PR is complete.
PR ET-120-TS-0059 - Gouge in Foam on LH2 Feedline Bracket
PDL Foam Trim was completed on Friday. PR is complete.
Apparently they damaged a bit , again .
Gee.....such a wealth of knowledge...and when, actually, did those dings actually happen. Could they have maybe been done at the manufacturer before the tank was even shipped....by perhaps the union folks there? Oh wait, that's right, you have all the info from your "inside sources" don't ya. Yeah right.....
>>> Sorry Bozos. Sanctioned strike. Can't be replaced. Hang tight all and watch the blog. Don't be a scab now. Don't forget why you walked out. Nothing has changed no matter what these morons try to spread. We can't be busted if we don't allow them to. Crossing will move it in that direction and then you will be as screwed as these goofballs. They want you to cross so they have a fighting chance to take your job.<<<
So as you have all the info then this must be a negotiating team member posting this right. Are you really, really, sure there's no way a "sanctioned" strike member can be released from his employment. C'mon now, explain to me how there is no way this can happen....
>>> The IAM today released a letter from Democratic members of Congress that has been delivered to the United Space Alliance CEO. Those congress people signing the letter include Mark Gordon, Chairman of the House Science and Technology Committee, and Mark Udall, Chairman of the House Space and Aeronautics Subcommittee, and members from both committees. The letter strongly urges United Space Alliance to return to the bargaining table to seek a fair resolution to the contract dispute.
It's nice to see that we have representatives in Congress who will stand up and put their names on the dotted line to ensure a resolution to this strike <<<<<
Oh lordy...another person who actually thinks a politician gives a hoot about your strike. Or that the CEO of USA would give a damn about what a politician that has VOTED TO CUT FUNDING for the shuttle program thinks. Oh now that's a nice hollow threat there....hold your breath while your at it and tell me where that gets ya
The Pork Barrel in Washington is supporting the Pork Barrel at KSC.
The Members pay dues that that support their management and donate funds to the democratic Party.
What a surprise support from Washington words are cheap.
This support can not do one thing for the contract, another of many smoke screens by the IAM fot the members.
Hold the line Brothers only a few more weeks and we will have USA where we want them????????????????
Remember the line you were feed when the strke started.
THE DO NOTHING CONGRESS IS PUMPING OUT HOT AIR NOT ACTION.
REMEMBER BROTHERS KEEP UP THE DUES AND YOUR MONEY TO THE PARTY.
Employees will be called back only as they are needed and by their classification.
In the event you do not accept the recall within three days you will be off the books.
Please follow the instructions you are given.
Congress never issued a strong anything without thinking about it for at least a year.
They are still thinking about the war promise and wwhat they would do if they were in charge.
ahhhhhhhhhhhh!!! The smell of hatred is still in the air. I love this blog! Keep up the good work Florida Today. ahhhhhh! no wait its no hatred in the air, guess to many spicy foods, oh well same difference!!
Get it straight and understand the facts. Sure 3:39, some Dems probably did sign a letter as you wrote above. Know why? Sundays paper..read it. Your committee knows what up, do you? You ARE and WILL be replaced. 12:59 says "Sorry Bozos. Sanctioned strike" . Whatever, the company is hiring your final replacement. Your negotiating committee was not wise to urge you to strike. Their education level speaks strongly enough. 12:59,keep telling yourself "you can't be replaced" because you're on strike. Let us know how that goes. The final straw was the insult by 2 negotiating members. Be sure and raise that question at your meeting. Ask them what they said. It was a deciding factor and shows again how poorly you were led. There will be no further negotiations. Read the paper Sunday. It is over.
The strike fund runs dry in less than 2 weeks. Ask about that!! Go on..ask!
The one post that said they can't be replaced is a flat out liar. You can be on strike as long as you like. TRUE! They can hire as many temps as they like. TRUE! See how that works. You're not technically replaced but your lack of paycheck and insurance makes it feel that way. Sorry.
Wait everybody, there's a letter.....there's a letter...
wait everybody, we're suing NASA, almost over
wait everybody, we flew to Houston to beg for talks.almost over now
wait, we'll get back pay for you
wait everybody, the company walked out, we didn't insult them
wait everybody, we're flying to DC because we know what they're going to do,...hire.
wait everybody, let's have a meeting, we'll explain this
wait,wait, wait
If i've been lied to about this ad, i'm going to work monday. I was told this was a ruse. it better be Lew. Some of the questions we've asked get evasive answers. This mythical ad would be prove enough for me. to my n/c, if this is true and you lied,I'm gone.
what did the negotiating comitee say to USA to piss em off? Does anybody know?
Foam gets damaged during every process flow, whether there is a strike or no strike.
THE FAMOUS LAST WORDS FROM THE IAM DO NOT DO ANYTHING JUST WAIT,WAIT,WAIT,WAIT,WAIT.
THE CONTRACT IS COMONG ONE BY HUSTON AND TWO BY THE TOOTH FAIRY, WAIT,WAIT,WAIT.
STAY STRONG BROTHERS AND SISTERS EVEN IF YOU GET LAYED OFF WE WILL SUE, WHO, WHAT AND WERE?????????
We can not be replaced, replaced, replaced, replaced, replaced can you say it 200 times.
After that time it becomes a fact.
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