tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post9118031251647696422..comments2023-10-18T08:43:10.620-04:00Comments on The Flame Trench space news and analysis: Obama to abandon return to moon, extend ISSC Perezhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13916832810035419167noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-86483571247335314272010-02-01T14:50:33.774-05:002010-02-01T14:50:33.774-05:00correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't the shutt...correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't the shuttle program already slated to be cancelled before Obama was put into office? I didn't vote for Obama, but I just want to get the facts straight here. If the shuttle was already going to be cancelled, doesn't that mean that he is trying to get some of these jobs back into place for the ISS or unmanned space exploration?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-9719344392857023612010-02-01T12:53:07.879-05:002010-02-01T12:53:07.879-05:00Once again, the president did not waiver one bit f...Once again, the president did not waiver one bit from an out and out lie. "And as America leads the world to long‐term exploration of the moon, Mars, and beyond, letʹs also tap NASAʹs ingenuity to build the airplanes of tomorrow and to study our own planet so we can combat global climate change. Under my watch, NASA will inspire the world, make America stronger, and help grow the economy Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-27460754812538515352010-02-01T09:41:30.814-05:002010-02-01T09:41:30.814-05:00George Bush killed the shuttle,he knew he would no...George Bush killed the shuttle,he knew he would not be around for the funeral some one else would take the heat. How many of you voted for him? Most of you are the same people complaining about the auto bail out. Oh that was not you who worked for the auto makers, who were losing their jobs after 30 + years. Now it's your turn,should the White House bail out Nasa so you can keep your job? YouAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-27706364026097830672010-01-30T20:06:16.785-05:002010-01-30T20:06:16.785-05:00It was George W. Bush who killed the Space Shuttle...It was George W. Bush who killed the Space Shuttle and tried to kill the Station as well. Even if Constellation had been funded, the jobs would still be lost. How come none of the people attacking Obama now lifted a finger before to save the Shuttle? It's not too late. Trashing the Shuttle before we have something better is still crazy. Obama still might extend Shuttle if NASA management Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-36899976178309674712010-01-29T21:44:30.554-05:002010-01-29T21:44:30.554-05:00President Obama on 6 August 2009 at Brevard Commun...President Obama on 6 August 2009 at Brevard Community College while running for President made a campaign promise to minimize job lay offs when our shuttle fleet retires in 2010. He's done a 180 on us and it's another promise he's failed to keep. There's plenty of money when it comes to pork barrel spending and for priorities like ram rodding a Government run/rationed health care Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-14746212229881453212010-01-29T16:28:33.219-05:002010-01-29T16:28:33.219-05:00If I recall correctly, the phase-out of the shuttl...If I recall correctly, the phase-out of the shuttle was planned during the last administration, after the loss of Columbia. That's not really Obama's doing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-35806595270376198142010-01-29T12:47:33.333-05:002010-01-29T12:47:33.333-05:00For everyone that works at KSC that voted for Obam...For everyone that works at KSC that voted for Obama....how do you like your "CHANGE " now!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-23356145430792428152010-01-29T00:50:08.318-05:002010-01-29T00:50:08.318-05:00More and more I think I made the proper choice to ...More and more I think I made the proper choice to retire in 2007 after 20 years and move out of Florida. I just heard a rumor that the LCC and VAB are leaking water. The Firex Water protection system that they put in 7 years ago is going off on its own and launch is 10 days away.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-24670127370705394902010-01-28T20:48:17.097-05:002010-01-28T20:48:17.097-05:00US human spaceflight is not ending, NASA human spa...US human spaceflight is not ending, NASA human space flight is. NASA has had a stranglehold on human spaceflight for decades, strangling our ability to move forward as a space-faring nation. It is typical hypocrisy of the Republicans to criticize Obama for "government take-over" banks and auto companies, but then when he wants the government to turn over space flight to industry it isAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-9379588020310021472010-01-28T15:06:09.596-05:002010-01-28T15:06:09.596-05:00guess Mars wasn't the only place America lost ...guess Mars wasn't the only place America lost its "spirit" this week....:(Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-15680972857853722202010-01-28T13:54:06.698-05:002010-01-28T13:54:06.698-05:00I have only this to say.He/they have got it badly ...I have only this to say.He/they have got it badly wrong,and it will all end in tears.The chinese are rubbing their hands with glee.They just verbally castrated the american manned space program. So much for getting the american human intellect back to the moon and on to mars. I thought i might see them fly to the moon twice in my lifetime.!!. NOT NOW !!.Grahamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-42780505199155209732010-01-28T12:34:45.896-05:002010-01-28T12:34:45.896-05:00I'm trying to figure out how to tell my kids t...I'm trying to figure out how to tell my kids that this country has abandoned manned space travel.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-29404268238784385392010-01-28T10:01:17.849-05:002010-01-28T10:01:17.849-05:00I think Obama has a great plan for the KSC workers...I think Obama has a great plan for the KSC workers, when we all get escorted out the gate. All 7,000 of us can pick up and ax or shovel and start digging the path for the new high speed rail system from Orlando to Tampa. He likes to take credit for the jobs he creates, but do you think he would address the 7,000 KSC works on our own turf about us loosing our jobs and our homes? I don't think Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-35634199958767508452010-01-28T09:58:47.925-05:002010-01-28T09:58:47.925-05:00The diffeence between the Nixon Fellowship and thi...The diffeence between the Nixon Fellowship and this is that when Nixon cancelled Apollo, the Space Shuttle was in the pipeline and just about to be approved by Congress. A hostile Congress. So manned spaceflight wasn't ended, just reprioritized. Obama is basically saying U.S. manned Spaceflight is over until Southwest Airlines decides it economically viable to built hotels and casino's onMichael McGrorynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-13540609095705268062010-01-28T09:13:36.272-05:002010-01-28T09:13:36.272-05:00well, when the first man will step down from the l...well, when the first man will step down from the ladder of its capsule on Mars and will say something like 'a small step...' broadcasted worldwide, he'll talk chinese, and as first thing he'll thank Russia for supporting the Chinese space program...US people will watch that on TV news...a very sad thought...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-31637132344519250352010-01-28T09:02:45.178-05:002010-01-28T09:02:45.178-05:00Folks, get a grip. The Shuttle program was ended ...Folks, get a grip. The Shuttle program was ended by George Bush after the Columbia accident. The decision to kill 7000 jobs in Brevard was made years ago. Obama is creating a couple thousand new and more sustainable jobs with commercial crew and other spaceflight initiatives at the Cape. <br /><br />True, it's not enough. But Ares wasn't creating more than a couple hundred jobs at theJim Muncyhttp://www.spacefrontier.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-86093336892138057592010-01-28T08:55:35.090-05:002010-01-28T08:55:35.090-05:00--
the Ares-1 is ALREADY DEAD due to SEVERAL desig...--<br />the Ares-1 is ALREADY DEAD due to SEVERAL design issues: http://ow.ly/K1UO<br />--<br />but the Constellation program CAN be SAVED and it costs ONLY... one Shuttle!<br />--<br />I have a proposal to SAVE the Constellation/Moon program: http://ow.ly/10hxl<br />--<br />and it could (very probably) match the NASA budget without need extra funds!<br />--Gaetano Maranohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00500435490402119385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-66401957011722390502010-01-28T08:22:19.012-05:002010-01-28T08:22:19.012-05:00All these people complaining about job the losses ...All these people complaining about job the losses should really get a reality check.<br /><br />The 7,000 job less figure is what it was going to be in the first place - you can thank George W. and his underfunding Constellation for 5 years for that one. How clueless are you people about a subject you claim to care about? If nothing changed, we'd lose 7,000 jobs. With this plan, we lose Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-53678810270664694132010-01-28T08:18:15.682-05:002010-01-28T08:18:15.682-05:00As someone above stated "My chilhood dreams, ...As someone above stated "My chilhood dreams, my academic passion, my professional aspirations....destroyed just as I was coming to realize them." I second that. I have had a strong passion for the space program as long as I can remember. I even applied for the teacher in space program. I am a teacher who dedicates 90% of my teaching time to space related issues. I have rebuilt thatAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-19198743219299852412010-01-28T08:04:17.220-05:002010-01-28T08:04:17.220-05:0043 yeaqs ago to this day January 27, three brave m...43 yeaqs ago to this day January 27, three brave man Gus, Ed, and Roger died trying to get us to the Moon.<br /><br />Today one person killed that dream and shamed their sacrifice. Not Congress, not the economy, not even NASA management....one man killed our dream...<br /><br />...and that man was George W. Bush when he started the usele$$ war with Iraq and ruined the American Economy (not to Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-67145147475420384882010-01-28T08:00:07.533-05:002010-01-28T08:00:07.533-05:00We need that high-speed rail now to get us out of ...We need that high-speed rail now to get us out of KSC.Jungle Johnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-2192252834223129782010-01-28T07:58:20.434-05:002010-01-28T07:58:20.434-05:00What is the definition of commercial spaceflight? ...What is the definition of commercial spaceflight? Really how commercial will be it be if $6B of the budget is directed toward commercialization? That sounds nothing more than just like we have it today except it screams more of a "jobs" program than ever before. <br /><br />I've worked in manned spaceflight for most of my adult life and have had several programs cancelled becauseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-65498111877076604562010-01-28T07:16:32.562-05:002010-01-28T07:16:32.562-05:00It proves once again; governments are NOT to be tr...It proves once again; governments are NOT to be trusted on to make us a space-faring civilization, they only provide an endless stream of false starts and false hopes.<br />Eventually private undertakings that capture the imagination of many people will take mankind to the planets. It will just take more time.<br />The days of visionary presidents like JFK is long gone, unfortunately..<br />Frankhttp://www.spacehorizons.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-27852038817683663212010-01-28T02:45:46.715-05:002010-01-28T02:45:46.715-05:00The Constellation program needed to be put out of ...The Constellation program needed to be put out of it's misery anyway. And the entire Constellation staff, from DC to Florida to Houston to Alabama to Mississippi to California and wherever else need to all get gone too! If Kay Bailey succeeds with Shuttle extension and Bill Nelson endorses it, and with the Obama plan for KSC, voters here should be happy enough for the Dems to suceed in the AnObamanauthttp://www.nasawatch.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-6644924715163871592010-01-28T02:27:51.180-05:002010-01-28T02:27:51.180-05:00One man killed that dream, and that man was Richar...One man killed that dream, and that man was Richard Milhouse Nixon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com