tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post1841713399431376474..comments2023-10-18T08:43:10.620-04:00Comments on The Flame Trench space news and analysis: YouTube Video Aims To Save ConstellationC Perezhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13916832810035419167noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-22712211780856993282010-02-04T11:19:18.418-05:002010-02-04T11:19:18.418-05:00Official Govt way of acquisition; 1. Submit a pro...Official Govt way of acquisition; 1. Submit a proposal that is insanely underfunded to beat other companies to taxpayer dollars. 2 Pray to God that some future administration will fund it properly. 3 Spend billions of taxpayers money getting to second base. (4) Have an idiotic president claim it is overbudget. (5) Have same president set up a panel of yes men. (6) Federal Govt employees are Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-76608890617255984362010-02-03T23:28:49.141-05:002010-02-03T23:28:49.141-05:00Orion is poorly designed and accomplishes nothing ...Orion is poorly designed and accomplishes nothing of practical value. It is completely inappropriate for ISS support since it weighs 25 tons and carries only four people and a few hundred pound of cargo. It is more expensive than Shuttle and vastly inferior to it in crew size, payload, capabilities for orbital assembly. FT has several times carried the vague innuendo that the Shuttle is unsafe. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-35590951926562672682010-02-03T19:25:29.321-05:002010-02-03T19:25:29.321-05:00The video was produced by an individual who just h...The video was produced by an individual who just happens to work for United Space Alliance. He did this at home on his own time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-41959611283765297032010-02-03T19:15:03.031-05:002010-02-03T19:15:03.031-05:00since I am new at this hole cumputer thing, I do n...since I am new at this hole cumputer thing, I do not know how to write to peaple lide the ceos of Boing or Lockeed Martin. but if someone can, then perhaps who knows, this will reach them.<br /><br />there is a posible solution to saving orion and at least one of the Ares rockets, it is time for both companies to start assuming part of the programs s financing, lest say 15 to 20 percent. CreateAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-49455400907230929902010-02-03T18:54:45.062-05:002010-02-03T18:54:45.062-05:00the last comment may be right, there is no mmore c...the last comment may be right, there is no mmore cold war. At least not whit Russia, but last time I checked, China was still comunnist and the US being second to theme in space is simply unacceptable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-50779420705229165802010-02-03T18:24:01.077-05:002010-02-03T18:24:01.077-05:00NASA and its contractors are employers, not parent...NASA and its contractors are employers, not parents. Working at KSC is a privilege, not a right or entitlement. If KSC employees were not prepared for the end of shuttle and potential cancellation of Constellation, shame on them. When it comes to manned space flight, people think with their hearts, not their heads. Manned space flight was a cold war tool; exploration was a side benefit. No Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-60763121543541549422010-02-03T17:10:16.295-05:002010-02-03T17:10:16.295-05:00This is a great video. Every senators and congres...This is a great video. Every senators and congressmen and women need to<br />see it so that they will understand what is at stake. I an a Canadian<br />and I get it. Do they. I respect the comment from the tea party person, but if you are a true patriot and you whant your country to be<br />number one at something, then accept to put some tax dollars to it or I garanty you will be the first Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-63281425221970403812010-02-03T16:43:34.826-05:002010-02-03T16:43:34.826-05:00Anonymous wrote:
"... this President has tur...Anonymous wrote:<br /><br />"... this President has turned his back to manned space flight outsourcing it out to Russia.."<br /><br />We've been flying on Soyuz since the 1990s. The current scheme to use Soyuz full-time once Shuttle retired was made by the Bush Administration five years ago.<br /><br />The non-partisan Augustine Panel found that Ares I probably wouldn't fly WordsmithFLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-7290552159612152062010-02-03T16:27:47.967-05:002010-02-03T16:27:47.967-05:00It's time for private industry to take over. -...It's time for private industry to take over. - you really belive it will be cheaper better and faster? Nope, if the gummint is handing out checks it will become bloated, slow and inefficient. If the companies themselves can bring in income that is another issue, but seeing as no one has a man rated ship waiting for tourists and they have no destination to go I think you'll be waiting a Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-30579318403713396792010-02-03T16:24:27.544-05:002010-02-03T16:24:27.544-05:00It's amazing that the elitist know the mind of...It's amazing that the elitist know the mind of every human in existence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-26670830315750088622010-02-03T15:54:14.680-05:002010-02-03T15:54:14.680-05:00A great victory for the Tea Party movement, gettin...A great victory for the Tea Party movement, getting the government out of the LEO transport business and allowing private enterprise to take over.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-22469076444264137682010-02-03T15:40:40.538-05:002010-02-03T15:40:40.538-05:00After 30 years here, I don't know of anyone th...After 30 years here, I don't know of anyone that was happy about the constellation platform announced back in 2004 with Bush.. we all shared the same thoughts.. but.. we knew there were other vehicles that were designed like Direct X that would do everything the US wanted to do, MARS included. We all knew that commonality with shuttle would save many billions on this program and we could haveAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-17839907962165114002010-02-03T15:05:19.911-05:002010-02-03T15:05:19.911-05:00Someone said:
"The U.S.A. is broke.
Obama...Someone said:<br />"The U.S.A. is broke.<br /><br />Obama's not wiping out NASA, he's just changing the game. This space race (no one is really racing much anymore) business needs to start turning a buck. We're paying for some very smart people to design and manufacture vehicles we cannot sell to anyone. Too expensive.<br /><br />It's time for private industry to take over.<Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-59897148240465006652010-02-03T14:39:02.555-05:002010-02-03T14:39:02.555-05:00This is on the Lockheed Martin Home Page.
Lockhee...This is on the Lockheed Martin Home Page.<br /><br />Lockheed Martin Responds To The FY2011 NASA Budget Proposal To Cancel Orion <br /><br />We are keenly disappointed in the Administration's budget proposal for NASA that would cancel Project Orion as part of an elimination of NASA's Constellation Program. Orion’s maturity is evident in its readiness for a first test flight in a matter ofAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-1581633467516794092010-02-03T14:20:43.019-05:002010-02-03T14:20:43.019-05:00Without casting blame on any one person or preside...Without casting blame on any one person or president or whatever, it is true that if we are to continue a space program of any kind, and I believe we will, it makes a lot of sense to pick a program and go with it. Bounding around from plan to plan will get us nowhere.<br /><br />I would rather spend money on any space program that creates jobs in the USA where those jobs in turn create others Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-31094169884770012922010-02-03T14:01:48.804-05:002010-02-03T14:01:48.804-05:00"They haven't kept the promise of an extr..."They haven't kept the promise of an extra mission. STS-135 is cancelled:"<br /><br /><br /><br />The extra mission is the AMS mission, STS-134. <br /><br />http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/promise/332/add-another-space-shuttle-flight/<br /><br />http://www.nasa.gov/home/hqnews/2009/aug/HQ_09-187_STS-134_crew.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-4401671791285016732010-02-03T13:54:47.967-05:002010-02-03T13:54:47.967-05:00I feel that after the shuttle program the Constell...I feel that after the shuttle program the Constellation is a step backward. Yes, a re-hash of the Appollo program. All the launch/re-entry vehicle technology from shuttle will not be of much use here. If the new commercial option the government is now proposing comes to fruition, the winged vehicle proposals may be viable given shuttle technology. Unfortunately, the limited dollars available Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-42451401871079817252010-02-03T13:51:11.600-05:002010-02-03T13:51:11.600-05:00The U.S.A. is broke.
Obama's not wiping out ...The U.S.A. is broke. <br /><br />Obama's not wiping out NASA, he's just changing the game. This space race (no one is really racing much anymore) business needs to start turning a buck. We're paying for some very smart people to design and manufacture vehicles we cannot sell to anyone. Too expensive.<br /><br />It's time for private industry to take over.<br /><br />Remember, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-31379595990676372702010-02-03T13:37:15.326-05:002010-02-03T13:37:15.326-05:00They haven't kept the promise of an extra miss...They haven't kept the promise of an extra mission. STS-135 is cancelled:Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-6946615940964709742010-02-03T13:17:59.854-05:002010-02-03T13:17:59.854-05:00WordsmithF - had we stuck with Apollo and NOT gone...WordsmithF - had we stuck with Apollo and NOT gone to the shuttle we would be further along in space than we are now. Old technology <> bad technology. As some have mentioned, in a disparaging way, look at the Russians. Reliability is what we need, consistency, and support to finish a project through and actually stick to the plan. No administration since the 60's has done that. This Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-49776548149754425582010-02-03T12:57:45.095-05:002010-02-03T12:57:45.095-05:00Either way I knew I was going to lose my job. We w...Either way I knew I was going to lose my job. We will see, in a few years all of this will be different, we'll be further behind and still have no direction. In NASA history only during the moon landing push did they have a clear cut vision. Since Apollo it has been changed up so many times they couldn't get anything done through completion. The new idea will turn out the same, except it Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-16070349915964133892010-02-03T12:27:29.859-05:002010-02-03T12:27:29.859-05:00So everyone is upset at the loss of jobs at KSC. ...So everyone is upset at the loss of jobs at KSC. Blame Bush for that roadmap. We are right on the schedule he set. Congress has failed to fund the Constellation program. The US could not launch another manned expedition after the shuttle retires until 2018 with the Ares program. Man rating the Delta 4 and Atlas 5 will be quicker and cheaper. The Ares 1 had problems with lift capacity and Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-4259899984490155252010-02-03T12:17:10.002-05:002010-02-03T12:17:10.002-05:00The non-partisan Augustine Panel found that Conste...The non-partisan Augustine Panel found that Constellation was over budget, behind schedule, badly managed and unlikely to launch a lunar mission until 2028, if ever.<br /><br />NASA Administrator Bolden in yesterday's press conference pointed out there are far more efficient ways to get to the Moon. One might be to create a fuel depot in low Earth orbit where human vehicles could refuel WordsmithFLnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-26354803372351900882010-02-03T12:14:20.517-05:002010-02-03T12:14:20.517-05:00Well produced video. I see it was made by a United...Well produced video. I see it was made by a United Space Alliance contractor. <br /><br />I missed the part at the beginning where Obama promised to keep Constellation - can someone point that out?<br /><br />The promises I did hear in the video intro:<br />"We may extend an additional shuttle launch."<br />Okay, that one is kept.<br /><br />"By continuing to support NASA funding.&Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19394281.post-73070894754015574132010-02-03T12:13:59.853-05:002010-02-03T12:13:59.853-05:00I've been checking around on opinions at newsp...I've been checking around on opinions at newspapers around the country. There is not much support for the Constellation program. Reasons given are: too expensive, too slow in getting man back on the moon, and it was underfunded during the Bush years which brings up questions as to why?<br /><br />Several comments stated that it might have taken off if we hadn't wasted $1trillion+ on Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com